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Re: MAPS: On Psychedelics in Our Time



Rob wrote:
I don't see any difference between "mass therapy" and "mass religion" since
the implication is that if only everyone would get some "good psychedelics" into them rather
than "good religion" the world would be a better place.

How is that any different to the proselytization of a "born-again/baptised in the Holy Spirit" Christian?

Just a 'pinch of psychedelic', for the hell of it, and all will be saved ... mein gott! i'm on a religious list....
 
My posting has been misunderstood.  To my thought, several mass religions do exist and have failed to unite the planet, or provide a basis for international cooperation, etc.  Mass therapy, by which I mean any form of psychotherapy that is (a) effective and (b) cheap and fast enough for mass marketting, does not exist, has not been invented yet, and certainly won't be achieved through a "pinch of psychedelic" alone.  Calling a random psychedelic experience "therapeutic" has been tried, isn't accurate except by chance, and has no mass appeal.  What I am talking about is genuine personality change, as indeed sometimes occurs through religious conversions (but usually doesn't) and sometimes is brought about through psychotherapy (but often doesn't).  This differs from "baptism in the Holy Spirit" and all religious analogs in that I am not talking about magic, or about social status, etc.  It is of no importance to me whether a psychedelic experience arrives a person at a mystical union, a death-rebirth experience, a conversation with a god or God, or any other manifest content.  People have lots of religious experiences whose manifest contents I think to be sheer fantasy; and no doubt lots of people think the same of the religious experiences I happen to think well of.  This is beside the point.  Becoming religiously holy, perfect, sanctified, saved, elect, redeemed, transpersonally developed, etc., is just a label.  Performative language does not accomplish psychotherapy.  The terms all describe something supernatural, something that may be validated consensually by one's society or friends, but is nevertheless make-believe (like money, patriotism, and a lot of other very serious fictions).  Sometimes, not often, people who have such experiences do coincidentally undergo therapeutic change, but most do not.  The research I am proposing is to discover what has to go right for thereapeutic change to occur, so as to be able to produce it predictably.  I am not proposing to debate the value of genuine personality change.  It's a bit like debating the value of true love.  If you don't think it exists, or is important, you are not going to participate in research on it.  On the other hand, I make no apology for having an interest in pursuing ideal solutions to real problems.  Are inadequate solutions to world problems the only ones worth going after?
Dan Merkur